In this episode of Podcast Tactics, you will discover the art and joy of podcasting. Today’s guest learned about podcasts just two years ago! Since then, she’s been hooked on podcasts, and she was driven to create her own powerful and inspiring show.
In today’s show, you will meet a joyful podcaster and learn how she has created a show that motivates and inspires. This episode is packed full of practical advice, so listen in for some valuable podcasting tips!
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James: In this episode of Podcast Tactics, you will discover the art and joy of podcasting. Today’s guest learned about podcasts just two years ago. And since then she’s been hooked on podcasts, and she was driven to create her own powerful and inspiring show.
Hello, I’m James. Welcome to another episode of Podcast Tactics. This is the show where you will learn how to podcast from other podcasters. In today’s show, you will meet a joyful podcaster and learn how she has created a show that inspires and motivates. This episode is packed full of practical advice. So listen in for some valuable podcasting tips. And remember to join the mailing list at PodcastTactics.com to get new episode notifications.
Now let’s get into it!
Joining me right now is Ling Yah from Kuala Lumpur, Selangor, Malaysia. Ling Yah, thank you for joining me today.
Ling Yah: Thanks for having me.
James: So let’s dive right in. Tell me about your podcast. What’s the name of it and what’s it all about?
Ling Yah: So my podcast is called “So This is My Why”. And it’s basically a podcast where I find inspiring people and also how they found their whys and turn them into realities, but I’ve kept it deliberately broad. So it’s not just say, ah, it’s just photographers. You’ve got VC founders, tech, entrepreneurs, comedians. So it’s a wide range of people from all over the world.
James: Yeah. Let’s start with that because you have an interview format show, and I think you have something like…
Is it almost 60 episodes, 60 interviews so far. Am I, am I remembering that accurately?
Ling Yah: Well I actually got around 38 episodes.
James: I’m sorry. Okay. That’s still, that’s still quite a bit of interviews. And really what I am curious about is, is, you know, like you said, you have, um, interviews with entrepreneurs, celebrities, athletes.
Um, how did you get dialed into these people?
Ling Yah: Well, when I first started, I really looked at my own network and I thought, “Oh, who are the interesting and inspiring people in my network?” And from there, most of them to be honest, I would say 80- 90% are people I just don’t know and have no links with. I just basically looked them up.
I love their story. And I just sent them a cold email or message on some kind of platform, and lucky me, they just respond.
James: Okay, I’m going to have to get your template. That’s amazing. I mean, the caliber of people that you are speaking with on your episodes is, you know, it’s impressive. Um, so yeah, you just basically ask!
Ling Yah: Yeah, I just, ask, and I think it helps when you have already have a portfolio of guests who come on and they are also inspiring people. So I think once they see that they want to be associated with those caliber of people. So you just built on that.
James: Let’s dive a little deeper. I’m curious about kind of the origins of you starting a podcast, such as this, where does that come from?
Ling Yah: So I wanted to start a podcast because honestly, I only discovered the existence of podcasts around two years ago. And I didn’t even know for instance, that there was such a thing as an Apple podcast app on my phone. And when the host would say subscribe to my podcast, I would think, how on earth do you subscribe?
But once I figured all the basics out, I realized very, very quickly that I really loved that. And I felt that I learned. So much from all these people I was listening to, because once you find, someone you like, you know, that they will produced something of quality of the kind of content you like. And so I got hooked on it on to it and I just thought, wow, this is an amazing medium.
It’s changed my life. It fits my lifestyle perfectly because I’m always traveling or I’m doing something like cooking and you want something playing in the background that’s more than just music. So I knew the medium was perfect for me. And I figured that it’s a medium, that lots of people love. And I thought what something that I’m really struggling with.
And I realized that at this point in time, it’s like a mid- career crisis, I suppose. And you think, what on earth do I want it to do I really want to do what I’m doing? And I forget that, Oh, I really want to ask people who really clearly love what they do, who have achieved quote-unquote success in life and figure out how they built their lives to that point, because you could have access to their LinkedIn profile, but it doesn’t explain to you the reasons behind why they went from one job to the other, or maybe it was like a quote or a book that inspired them to do certain things. And that was the thing I really wanted to draw out.
James: Yeah. Yeah. So I caught something earlier where you said, I think he said something to the effect of that podcasting has changed your life.
And I wanted to kind of circle back and have you flesh that out a little bit. In what ways has your podcast changed your life?
Ling Yah: I think podcasts have changed my life just because I’m aware that there’s a world outside, beyond the confines of where I operate. So I’m a lawyer. And for me, prior to podcasts, I only know law and I only know lawyers who know lawyers.
So it was a very niche bubble, if you will. And I just even crossed my mind that there was such a thing, for instance, as a creative economy, because there just wasn’t anybody, at least in my circle who was writing a blog or even going on social media and posting… posting constantly. It just wasn’t a thing.
But once I found podcasts and I found podcasts that were specifically on SEO or just on Pinterest. And that’s when I realized, Oh my gosh, there’s an entire community of people who all know each other who are really passionate, who might be doing it full-time or even just a side project that might turn into something full.
And for me, that was just inspiring and it just felt as though my eyes open and everything. And everywhere I looked, it was just opportunities everywhere that I was somehow blind to as prior. But now I see.
James: Wow. That is, that almost sounds magical.
Ling Yah: It was magical.
James: Well my, my mind is kind of blown a little bit still because.
You said, uh, it’s just been a couple of years since you’ve actually learned about the existence of podcasting, you know, and for you to, you know, kind of take that knowledge and go, Oh, I wanna, I want to do that. Um, I think your podcast is actually less than a year old. If I’m not mistaken.
Ling Yah: Yes. Yes. It’s definitely around like nine, 10 months, I think.
Yeah, not that long.
James: Uh huh. What was the context of you starting that? Was it just, I mean, I guess really the question was, was COVID the, you know, the cause or was it, you know, cause a lot of people say, you know, like, well, you know, COVID I had a lot of time…
Ling Yah: Well, I knew I wanted to start a podcast by the end of 2019, but I kind of sat on it for half a year because there was this mental block of, Oh my gosh, how do I get over the technical part, which is quite silly really.
Um, in that period of time, I had already decided that I was going to start and I already reached out to people. And I had 15 people say yes, which is amazing because I didn’t even have a name or a website, nothing to my name, but I already have all these people say yes. And I could see the months ticking by.
And I was thinking it’s already been two months, three months since they said, “yes”, they might forget I even asked. And then I also knew I was going to launch a little bit later because I had gone to hike to Everest Base Camp in March. And so I knew that I was going to be gone for that long period. And I figured let’s shove all that aside to much later.
And who knew while I was hiking up to Everest Base Camp that the world went into lock down. So that meant I was stuck overseas for 40 days. Yeah, it was this epic thing. When I got back, I just thought I’ve achieved this amazing thing. I’ve always wanted to do this podcast and now was the perfect time since I’m stuck at home to just do it.
So yes, you could say in part COVID was the reason.
James: Right… I mean, COVID was the reason for you starting, but you know, you had conceived of the idea prior to that. So, I mean, not that it makes a difference, but you know, I mean, it’s the context under which you, uh, actually undertook the, um, you know, the steps to, um, Go down the podcast journey, uh, did happen inside of the COVID era.
Ling Yah: Yes.
James: I mean, there, there are a ton of things going through my brain right now. Um, you know, you brought up your website and I want to acknowledge you for, uh, putting together a website. That’s… I’m a web developer. I work as a Project Manager for a web development firm, and when I see podcasters who put together a website as beautiful as yours as, um, well-written and, and, uh, concise and, and the presentation is just absolutely wonderful. Um, it’s worth noting because, uh, you know, it, it really, to me in my mind, it, yeah, helps, um, you know, your podcast, it helps your brand if that’s what you’re up to. Um, but it also gives that kind of central place for you to say, “Hey, you know, if you want to find out more about me and my podcast, just go to my domain.”
Um, you know, so. Really nice job with your website. It’s beautiful.
Ling Yah: Wow. Thank you. It means a lot coming from someone like you.
James: So I’m curious about how you you’re growing your podcast. Are you actively promoting it in any way? What does that look like?
Ling Yah: Yeah. So I always create daily. Now it’s video snippets because I record zoom, but with video as well, and I just insert it using Canva.
And so it tends to be around less than a minute or sometimes can be up to two minutes, and everyday I release it, so Monday. So I release on Sunday, and Sundays that launch and Monday to Saturday is just six different audio snippets. And I post it across all… all media platforms. So say Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter.
And that’s really just the main way of doing it. And I found a lot of people come back and say that that’s really helpful because even when they see the launch of the episode, they think, Oh, that’s really interesting, I really want to watch it as time goes by, they forget about it and the fact that they want to watch it.
So when they see me post that snippet, they are reminded of the fact that, Hey, there’s this episode, I am interested. I should check it out. So that’s how I’ve been doing it, mostly.
James: That is really cool. So I want to make sure that I am ingesting what you just said to me. Is it… You’re doing a daily, like minute video across several social platforms for one episode, the episode that you released on Sunday. Is that, is that accurate?
Wow. Okay. Can you tell me what kind of, this is silly… I’m laughing because I’m going to ask you this. Could you tell me what kind of effort, what kind of effort is it to put those videos together? I mean, that seems like a lot of work.
Ling Yah: It is a lot of work, but I have this software called “Descript”, which is amazing and life transforming.
So “Descript” is D E S C R I P T. And it’s a software that allows you to edit both audio and video. And what happens… you toss either your audio video into the software. They ultimately transcribe it for you, which is amazing. So what I do is I will toss in the video for the entire thing, I’ll edit it.
And you can, because you see, you can edit the transcript and you will ultimately edit the video. So it’s just like a three in one thing. And once I have that, all I have to do is just go back to that main body and look, what are the main things I want to draw and create a separate, I suppose you could say composition as they call it in Descript.
And from there, I just wrap it up in Canva and toss it out.
James: Man… You know, it’s it, this is weird because, um, I had four interviews today and (maybe it’s not so weird) you’re the, you’re the, you’re the second person today that talked about Descript. I mean, it it’s, so I I’m like man, you know, the first person when they were telling me about it, I’m like, Oh, yeah, I got to do that.
Cause you know, I’m doing all these interviews, and I’m dreading the editing process, and that makes it sound like it so accessible. And so, I mean, I love the fact that it transcribes it. Uh, like you said, it’s a three in one kind of a thing, so that’s really appealing. So anyway…
Ling Yah: It is really appealing. I mean, yeah. I can’t imagine any podcaster not using Descript, and the best thing I think right now they offer three hours free. So you can try it out and see whether it works for you or not. And if it’s not it’s fine, but otherwise I feel that it’s really affordable and I can’t, I just absolutely can’t edit anything consistently without Descript.
It would be horrible.
James: Well, I appreciate you… I appreciate your frankness with that too. Do you do, um… So with Descript, do you do like full episode edits or is it just those one minute, uh, social snippets that you do?
Ling Yah: Full episodes. So I toss the entire video inside and that’s where I edit it. Because otherwise you’d be looking at sound waves and it’s just so hard to edit it.
Whereas with Descript, I just look at the transcript and if I want to, I can shift things around because they also have little things like you can find the, the filler words, like the “ums” and the “ahs”. And they can automatically identify all of it and remove it with one click, which is amazing. No, I’m not kidding.
It’s crazy. And you can go and do a search function for say the word, “like,” and they will find everything for you. And if you want, you can remove all of it. It is just amazing.
James: Okay. Yeah. I said this, I said this to the other person I was interviewing and I’m going to say it to you, “sold.” That’s incredible. Um, okay.
And I’m going to say what I said to the other person too… Let’s not talk about Descript anymore. Let’s talk about you and your podcast because you’re just as amazing as that. Um, okay, so let me get my notes back together here. I’m sorry. I’m totally off script here. Um, so we talked about how your…
Ling Yah: The best conversations go off script!
James: Right, yeah, exactly! Uh, we did… We did talk about how your growing your podcast. Excellent tips. Thank you so much for that.
Um, well, let’s talk about an episode discussion. I listened to the, uh, Uh, John Kim episode. Oh, by the way, let me back up. Actually, I listened to your trailer first, um, because I’m currently putting my trailer together right now and I’m struggling, um, yours. It was inspiring. It was very clean, very well put together. Any tips for, you know, a new podcaster or somebody who’s embarking on podcasting for the trailer.
What kind of advice could you give around that?
Ling Yah: Oh, my gosh. It feels like such a long time ago. Um, I think keep it short and snappy, because I looked at other trailers as well, and they never went very long. It was one or two minutes. And I also know, so this is me. I always do my research and I noticed from other people as well and trailers, what really left an impact for me was because I already done several recordings of other guests and that’s because of the format I do. I could insert it in and give a real flavor because it’s, that’s the reason why I did podcasts in the first place. You want to hear the story from the person themselves. It just sounds so different. It’s a different flavor. And so that was very deliberate of me to make sure I included those voices in with mine. And I just went in, I just found free music. So you can find them. I think I found them YouTube offers some free music and you can just, there’s such a wide range and all you have to do is just cobble something together and make sure the music doesn’t drown out the voice.
And it’ll be fine.
James: Yeah. I got to say, I, you know, when I heard your trailer and when those. When you rolled those examples snippets from your interviews, I was like, Oh my gosh, I’m going to have to reshoot mine. Gonna have to be shoot my podcast. I mean, my podcast trailer, cause you know I have some in the can.
I was like, that’s such a great idea to, to lay those in there. So yeah. Um, I’m going to have to put my, the release of my trailer off, or at least another day or two, but thank you for that inspiration because it was a stroke of genius for sure.
Ling Yah: I think the best part about trailers is that it’s easy for you to take it out and just replace it again.
So it… Don’t let that be the thing that holds you back.
James: Okay. Okay. Well, that’s that’s… Thank you for that. Yeah. Um, yeah, because I try to go, I mean, I don’t try, I go down these rabbit holes of like, it has to be right. You know, and I gotta let go of that. Um, I do want to say that the interview with John Kim was amazing.
Uh, he’s got a great story. I mean, obviously right. You know, from end to end, he’s a great storyteller. Um, yeah. I mean, you know, all of your interviews, I’m assuming or imagining that it’s on that level of, you know, this person who was up to big things in the world truly inspiring. Um, it made me want to go back in your catalog and just start from the beginning.
So, um, yeah, I mean, fantastic. Yeah.
Ling Yah: What was your favorite part about… what was your favorite part?
James: So, with John…. I really, you know, when he, early on, he was talking about when he was growing up…. I hope he doesn’t hear this
Ling Yah: No, it’s ok, he’s very open about it.
James: I really related to him when he was telling his story about growing up, because that was my story.
Right. You know, I mean, I’m Asian Pacific Islander. I got into trouble. So anyway, this is not an interview about me, but that, that was something I, uh, you know, I that’s what drew me into that episode and, you know, I was like, really curious about like, okay, you know, like this guy clearly, you know, excelled in his life.
Right. And he’s continuing to excel, like, and he started from like, where I did. What can I borrow from him? Right. What can I model? So there you go.
Ling Yah: He guides a hedge fund because of Barbie dolls! Anything is possible.
James: And that’s the thing, right? Like, I feel like, you know, at least for that episode, you know, like I got that, but you know, I feel like with your podcast, that’s what you’re really exploring, right?
That creation of the possibility and stepping into that possibility.
Um, tell me how… I’m sorry if I asked this question before, I can’t remember if I did or not, but how do you go about getting your guests? No, you did answer that you did answer that already. Let me ask you this though. How do you prepare for your interviews?
Ling Yah: Oh, so I really, really, really prepare because I’m a lawyer by training. And I figured out that, you know, what, what is the thing that I really love about podcasts? I always think about what attracts me. And I realized that what I really love is not those who riff off. I mean, I appreciate it. People who love those kind of riffing off without preparing.
But I really, really appreciate people who just take the time to really understand the guests that are coming, such that when the guests do come, they really get to go and dive really, really deep into their lives. And so given that, and also because I love research and I love talking to people, those are my two favorite things.
I hate editing, but the first two I love! So I knew, every time I get a guest on, I’m going to research them to the point where I feel like I know their lives as well as I do, if not better. And that is the base level, absolute base level. So if you’ve written something, I would’ve read it. If you have done an interview, I would’ve listened to everything and made notes.
And from there, I built on it because I feel that not only does it give value to people who are listening, I also learn a lot. I mean, a lot of things I learn, never make it into the interview because it’s just too long. My notes can be 20 pages long. There is no way it will make it into the interview.
So, and there’s the other side, which is I feel that if my guests are going to give and my, my guests tend to average about an hour and a half to even three hours interviews.
Ling Yah: If they’re going to give so much off their life, time to me, and the fact that they’re sharing their personal story, I really need to honor that and be respectful of their story.
And you can’t be respectful by just sitting down going, “so tell me about your life”, and I’m not… clearly had not made any effort. And I found that so many guests, even people who have been interviewed for decades, they will every now and then say, Oh, you really did your research. You can see the joy in them, the gladness.
And I know it’s just something that, for some reason, people are not doing enough, but I know that I really want to, and it is definitely appreciated.
James: That’s wonderful. Yeah, I totally get what you’re saying with that, you know, kind of honoring their presence and, you know, just being respectful of their time as well, especially if you’re spending that much time with them.
Um, but you know, I will say that with, you know, with John, um, that really, you know, shone through, like it was, you know, like it was clear. If you said you riffed, if you said you were, you know, making it up as you go along and it was totally, totally conversational, I would have, I would have just hung up on you.
No, I’m just kidding. I would’ve been surprised, you know, because I mean, it was a very, very, um, you know, deep dive I think is a really good, uh, analogy for, uh, how you interviewed John. And I’m sure you do that with all of your guests as well, so…
Ling Yah: Yeah, I really do feel that it’s on me as an interviewer to do that because I mean, it’s that person’s story, but it doesn’t mean they remember every story that happened to them.
So, all I need to do is just, act as the trigger and go remember that thing of that person and then they’ll go, “Oh yeah. They’re… it’s their thing!” And that’s where the gem comes, yes.
James: Yes, that’s well said. That is where the gems come in!
So, what is one piece of advice that you would give a new podcaster or somebody who’s interested in starting a podcast?
Ling Yah: Hmm.
I think, and this is something I heard recently. I can’t remember where. It’s really the fact that you should do podcasts because you love it. And the reason why I say this is because a lot of people are jumping onto platforms, like say Clubhouse, because everyone is doing Clubhouse or to TikTok because everyone is doing TikTok. Oh, I remember I, I heard this in a Clubhouse room and it was a bunch of creators in this room, and this one was a very famous professional TikTok-er with over 3 million followers. And he’s basically saying that a lot of people come to me because I make very popular TikToks and they ask, “How do I do it? How? Can you give me advice on how I do my TikToks?”
And he gives the advice and he says, I can instantly tell that they are doing it just because everyone’s on that platform, as opposed to a love for TikTok. And I feel like that, that really does apply as well to podcasts, not in the sense that I can sense that you don’t love it as much, but it’s just that it’s a long, it’s a marathon. It’s not a sprint.
And so the whole point of this is you can’t launch it and expect it to explode from day one, or even after a year or two or three, it might never explode. But the thing that keeps you going is the fact that you just love what you’re doing. And I think that that’s, what’s keeping me going, because trust me the editing, it’s horrible.
And I know I said it so many times, but if you don’t love podcasting this editing will get to you, and you will stop! And that’s the thing, right? If you look at the numbers, most of the podcasts out there, I think around 70, 80%. So over a million podcasts, they haven’t been updated in months or years.
And most of them never go beyond 10 episodes. Now we have around 1.7 million podcasts. So that’s a huge, huge number. So there is definitely potential to grow and stand out. But, the question is, is this the medium that you really, really want, because there are so many mediums and opportunities out there.
So for me, it’s really just, you got to love the medium that at least that’s for me, that’s, what’s keeping me going.
James: Sure. Yeah. I love that. Um, oh, there’s an “um”.
Ling Yah: Descript!
James: Yeah. What is it that you want people to get out of your podcast? Why should they listen to your show?
Ling Yah: I think I want people to feel inspired, because I definitely do feel inspired. And I find that talking to these people. I see so many opportunities where I didn’t see any opportunity before. And the fact that most of these people are so inspiring.
There’s this one guy who runs a $3 billion deep tech VC fund. And you also have people who are Hollywood actresses who and actors and crazy rich agents. I mean, these people, you look at them and you think, “Oh my gosh”, amazing success. How do you get there? And it feels so beyond anything that I can achieve. And then you figure you listen to their story and you realize, they had no idea what they were doing with their lives and they still don’t! And so there’s that for me, anyway, there’s this level of comfort of knowing that it’s okay that I feel lost, but the thing is that they kept going where others have stopped. They had this one specific interest that no one else might have had, or maybe people even laughed at them for, but they didn’t care to just did it anyway.
And you can see the way that they slowly built the different blocks of their life to reach the point where they are at. So they can take on a job that they are uniquely suited for that didn’t exist 20 years before, but because they still kept doing it, they are the only ones who can do it. So for me, I just want people to be inspired and to realize that if you have an interest to follow it. Just don’t, you have no idea where we we’re going with it. You have no idea. I mean, with the creator economy or the passion economy, doors really are opening and people are really looking to tap into that and to support you. So now is the best time to just explore and just hear how other people have done it.
So you could potentially do it in your own life.
James: If you had to pick out one episode that you’ve recorded so far for somebody to listen to which one would it be?
Ling Yah: No! I think it’s really hard for me to answer this question because of the variety of guests I’ve had. Every time someone asks me that question, I will always ask them in return, “what is your interest?”, because that really does dictate what you want to do. So for instance, if you are in the VC tech world then obviously John King will be perfect because he’s a VC guy and VC guests are very interesting episodes.
So John Kim is perfect. The other guy is Dr. Finian Tan. If you want say an entrepreneur, then Cesar Kuriyama has got a crazy story. Crazy, crazy, because he launched, he managed to launch his app by speaking first on TED, it went viral. Then he starts a Kickstarter. We went viral. He sends one tweet to Jon Favreau, who is the director of the Mandalorian, et cetera.
That one tweet got his app into a Hollywood movie. So he’s got like craziest story for a tech entrepreneur. So it really depends on who you want to be inspired by.
James: Wow. Yeah. Um, that was a, that was a very elegant way of skirting that question and say giving four different answers to it. No, I’m just kidding.
So, um, if you had a time machine and you were able to go like two years into the future, what would your podcast look like?
Ling Yah: I would love it to be going along the same lines and obviously having lots of inspiring people. And one of the things that I really want to do more of is to expand the definition of, of inspiring, because I think it’s very common for people to look at and go inspiring people are those who say, have exited unicorn companies or done something amazing that you always see all the time. And what I’m trying to do is to bring other people who might not quite fall into that category and also say that these are inspiring people.
So one of it is an example would be Joey Law and she’s actually the mother of another guest. What was, who was then a 10 year old CEO. She was 10 years old. Now she’s 15 years old. So youngest CEO in the world. And I wanted Joey’s story, because she’s a full-time mom. And that is such an… and she loves being a mom.
And so I could contrast that whole… Hillary’s going and doing this amazing thing. And at the age of 15 years old, it’s been five years. So she has run her SaaS company. Whereas there’s her mom who used to be in the Hong Kong police force, and then she gives a very different variety of… while, Hillary is doing this, she was intensely bullied and the whole process of bringing Hillary out, homeschooling her, and also being a mom, looking after her two little kids who are running their own businesses at such a young age. And I want to bring more mothers out, more, stay at home dads as well. You know, people who are saying that this is what, this is my season.
This is where I should be staying at home and dedicating my life to my kids. And I find that so inspiring and people don’t share that enough if you will. So I would really love to bring more of those stories and put them alongside all these three billion dollar VC tech funds so that people, the likes of John Kim and just say, these are inspiring people. Look at them in the same light.
James: That’s awesome. Very, very cool. I, I am onboard with that. Yeah, that is beautiful. So Ling Yah, before we wrap things up, I do have one more question for you. What is the best experience that has happened to you as a result of your podcast?
Ling Yah: Oh, what is the best experience?
That’s so interesting. I think it was last year. At the end of the year, I was very privileged to be invited, to give a virtual keynote to a bunch of very. I would say very ambitious young ladies in East Malaysia, which is off the coast of, I mean, in Borneo. And these are kids who are 13, 14, who are saying I’m going to Harvard, and so they’re very ambitious and they really want to network and really get to know other inspiring people. And just to have that ability to come on stage and just share with them the kind of things, takeaways that I have had just running this podcast and telling them it’s amazing that you have ambitions and look, the other amazing ambitious people are, they’re like 15 year old Hillary Yip
and look at them to be inspired. And I feel that. That for me was the most unexpected but most inspiring thing, to be able to talk to these young people in the way that I wish someone had talked to me and say, you know what? You don’t have to, in fact, most people will probably not be following the traditional path or rather you can follow the traditional path, but you have many other paths you can run on at the same time, because that’s what this era is giving us.
James: I lied. I have one more question for you that just popped into my head. Have you found your “why?”
Ling Yah: No!
James: Fair enough.
Ling Yah: Yeah. I mean, it’s okay. I think it’s okay because most people haven’t found their why yet. And I don’t want to give the traditional, I mean the different season, you’re watching all the time, but I mean, I feel that.
While I can’t say definitively I have found my why, I definitely love doing what I do and that amazes me as well. That every day, the first thing I think of the last thing I think of is doing this podcast and who on Earth can I talk to next? And having that love for it, that excitement, it hasn’t died down yet. So I think.
You could say I’ve sort of found my why, but I also, I also want to give a caveat to myself to get out jail free card, like a lawyer. I said, I have but, let me just put in a “but” just in case.
James: Good answer. So Ling Yah tell us where people can learn more about you and your podcast.
Ling Yah: Yeah. So my podcast is called “So This is My Why” you can find it on all platforms, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and there’s a website. And you mentioned earlier is called sothisismywhy.com. And so everything that you want is there.
James: Ling Yah, thank you so much for coming on. Um, I’m hoping that we can stay in touch. Uh, maybe catch up down the road, you know, like six months, maybe do a follow-up interview if you’re open to that, if you have the time.
Ling Yah: Yeah, of course. I would love to. I really enjoyed this interview with you, James. You are an amazing, amazing interviewer.
James: Aw, thank you so much!
The name of the show is, “So This is My Why”. Ling Yah, thank you so much again, for an amazing conversation, an amazing podcast. I wish the best of success for you and your show in the future.
Ling Yah: Thank you and I wish the best for you as well.
James: Thank you.
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