Powerful Podcasting Tips, Tactics, and Tricks with Nick Lamagna

Show Notes

This episode of Podcast Tactics is filled with TONS of practical podcasting advice. From interview prep to show promotion, today’s guest delivers powerful strategies for starting and growing your podcast!

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Episode recorded on February 27, 2021.

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Transcript

James: This episode of Podcast Tactics is filled with tons of practical podcasting advice. From interview prep to show promotion, today’s guest delivers powerful strategies for starting and growing your podcast.

Remember to join the mailing list at PodcastTactics.com so you can keep learning about podcasting, get inspired, and stay motivated.

I’m James, the host of Podcast Tactics. Thanks for listening.

Let’s get into it!

Let me hit the mic is national real estate investor. Jiu-jitsu black belt and veteran podcaster. Nick Lamagna. Nick, thank you so much for joining me on the show.

Nick: Thanks so much for the invite, man. I’m excited to talk to you.

James: So you’ve been going at this for a while here. You’ve uh, you’ve been going at it, I believe since 2018.

Tell us more about your show and what’s the name and what’s it about.

Nick: So my, my show is, uh, technically it’s called “The A Game Podcast”, but, uh, every time I talk to somebody else, they’re like, well, you should really put this in and take this out. And semi-colon this thing. So, um, I also haven’t figured out sometimes when I look for it, I can’t, I even can’t find it.

So I tell people the egging podcast with Nick Lamagna. Cause when you put my name in, it’ll pop up. But, um, you know, it started out as a show that I really just wanted to talk to people about real estate. And I started seeing that a lot of the S it’s a lot of the same guys asking the same questions to the same guests whenever they’re, you know, looking for whatever, promoting whatever.

And, uh, I figured I wanted to start talking to people definitely about investing, but talk to other people from other walks of life. So it really got away from being a real estate show and more became about people who were just top performers. So that’s really where the game came from was, you know, my, my business partner has always told me.

Whatever you do, just, you know, go in and do your best, bring your A-game to that. Whether that’s flipping properties, doing a podcast, scrubbing toilets, doing jujitsu, like selling lemonade. If you bring your best to it, like whatever you say, you’re going to do, just do your best with it and bring everything.

You can kick that things by. And people are going to notice that and we’ll bring other opportunities. So I like to just talk to people that are, that do that, that are top performers that have overcome adversity and that whatever it is, their thing is whether it’s music or acting or jujitsu or real estate or podcasting.

Right. They’re bringing their a game because that’s just, you know, tends to be the people that I level with is the people that are. You know, just bring your best to everything they do. And they hold themselves accountable. So we’ve had rock stars and TV stars and some of the biggest names in real estate and business and UFC champions and some jujitsu guys and astronauts.

So it’s been really cool and very different. Yeah. You know,

James: I, I love the, you know, the concept behind the show, you know, a game that’s, you know, inspiring. That’s what drew me to it. You know, I enjoyed listening to a couple of episodes. You know, I’m going to look forward to listening to some more as well.

You’ve got great guests, a great interview style. How do you get dialed into these people? Well,

Nick: I appreciate you listening that it’s very nice of you to say thank you very much for support. Um, you know, it’s a, it came over time, but it definitely a few of my friends, um, you know, my best friend, Cheryl, Marco Connel, and Sean Cooper, they’re in the band taking back Sunday.

I’ve grown up with them forever and they have done. So many interviews with so many people for, I mean, they just did their 20 something year anniversary. So they’ve been around forever and everybody’s interviewed them. They’ve been on Letterman and you know, all of the world. And I remember them telling me how much better it is.

They were like, do you have no idea when we get somebody who interviews us and they actually do a little bit of homework. And they have questions lined up and they get the information, right. Or they like, they’re truly a fan or they just, you know, they don’t butcher our names. They know what they’re talking about.

They don’t confuse it. He’s like, it makes all the difference in the world. He’s like, because you start to dread all this press you do. And I, and I listened to that and I was like, man, I didn’t really think about that. I was winging these conversations a little bit with the stuff that I knew. But I don’t want to be known as the guy that gets these big guests on finally.

And then everybody goes out and go on that guy’s show he doesn’t even. So again, bring your a game. I didn’t want to be somebody bringing my B game when I’m going to talk to these guys. I want him to go on and be like, you know what? That guy really, you know, he, he did a lot of prep and so I started putting a lot of time.

Into learning about the guests and digging into their past and figuring out what kind of things could relate to my topics and things that I enjoy and watch their shows. And, you know, I, I like to say I can read all their books, but there’s just, you know, he can’t carry that. I do a lot of research, you know, like hours and hours and sometimes days and days, and, and I really line stuff up.

And I, when I first started doing that, And in some of these bigger guests on like, like, uh, some of the people from Reno nine, 11 or MTV is a state. They would write me back and say like, Hey, I really appreciated you going and doing your homework. They will. And they said the same thing. They were like, people think we’re on different shows.

They butcher our name. They like, they don’t even really, they’re not talking to us at all. So when you start to get people that reach back out and say, you know what? Yours was a little different and I appreciated that you went the extra mile to learn about it. It makes you like, that’s my thing. Now I have to keep that standard.

So. Um, you know, when the guests appreciate it and then they go and they tell somebody else, you know, that’s, that’s so things start to go around, you know? So, um, I don’t know if that’s your question. I tend to ramble sometimes. Okay.

James: That’s some really good feedback. I mean, you know that you’re getting on, you know, your interview style and how people are, how you’re the rapport that you’re able to get with people.

I mean, we don’t get a lot of time, right. I mean, sometimes it’s 30 minutes. Maybe an hour, a couple of hours, if we’re lucky and you know, to get that kind of feedback. I mean, that’s awesome. Um, I do want to dial back a little bit though, because I’m not sure if I heard it, but how did you, how did you start getting into celebrities and, and, you know, athletes, um, get dialed into the, getting them in for an interview?

Nick: So, you know, the, the whole reason I started doing the podcast was, um, I, I think everybody has something that they wish they did more of, you know, a quote that I always say on my show and that I say to everybody actually is the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. Second best time is today. And I’ve mentored a lot of people in real estate and everybody always wishes.

They did it earlier. I wish it did it when your age I’m like, if you’re 40, you wish you did it when you were 35. If you’re 80, you wish you didn’t. When you were 75. And I found myself doing that with a podcast. I would start to see other people do a podcast, or then posted about how many shows they had or how many, how many views they had or how many downloads.

And I, and I would always tell myself, man, if I would’ve started doing this a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. And so one day I was actually listening to, um, My friend, Billy Grazzini who’s who is from the band biohazard. He’s now in the band power flow is a digital belt and Gracie Torrens. So shout out to him, but he was talking to this guy, Jamie Josta.

That was from, uh, the span hate breed. And the drummer from Penn Tara had recently died. And they were on a podcast together talking about how, when they were younger and they were all touring together, they would see each other all the time. But then they got older. Some of them stopped touring and there they have families or careers.

So now, like you don’t really get to interact because you come into town to play a show, they’re out playing a show somewhere else. So the guy from hate Bri was like, you know, the coolest thing about doing a podcast. Was that it was my excuse to keep touching base with all the guys that we used to go on the road with.

That’s awesome. He’s like, so I recently got to talk to Vinnie Paul on the podcast and thank God I did because this happened and I would’ve felt terrible if I had, hadn’t reached out to the guy and like 10 or 15 years. And that’s what did it for me. I was like, you know what? The coolest thing about me is just the people that I know.

Um, I don’t, I’m not anything special, but I know all these cool people who do all this cool stuff. And at the very least, it gives me a chance to connect with some of the guys that. You know, if, if you’re a jiu-jitsu or you’re boxing or something, you, you get three or four minutes to, to Brown with the guy they’re trying to choke, you were hit you or something, and then you switch.

So you don’t really get to catch up. And so I thought it was a great way to just touch base with my friends. So. You feel weird at first doing a podcast, you don’t know who to ask. So you start asking your friends. And some of my friends were real estate guys, and some of my friends were jujitsu guys and some of my friends were UFC fighters.

So by default, I started getting guys from different things just because there were people that I felt comfortable being like. You know where you’re coming from with podcasts, I felt like an idiot. Um, so I kinda got my wheels wet with that. And then I loved the way that I found out that meant everybody wants to get into real estate or have a side hustle and make more money, or they don’t want to get hit in the head their whole life, or they want to do boring for their whole life.

So it was a cool thing to see, like what are people doing to get to this high level and what are they doing on the side? So bring something in to get them excited for, you know, life after baseball. And it was so easy that you realize. You know, I’ve heard somebody say this quote before, but I had loved that the fact that everybody who’s famous or somebody or well-known or accomplish anything great is just a kid from somewhere.

And that’s like the story that you can get from everybody, you know, I don’t care who you talk to. Everybody has something cool. They just. Sometimes don’t realize that it’s cooler or less than anybody else can learn. So, um, I just found that really different and I started getting a lot of feedback from people of like, that’s cool.

I didn’t know that that UFC fighter was into real estate. And I didn’t know that that real estate guy was into UFC. And I know that, you know what I mean? So it’s cool to see the way that everything can start to come together. And that’s part of just doing the research now is I just find like what are power lows that I can pull in at the average person or entrepreneur or somebody who wants more at can kind of tie into and, um, It just really keeps fresh perspectives on the same thing.

And I just enjoy kind of connecting to people from different sides of life that all have a little part of me in them. I do

James: want to talk a little bit about what you hate about your, about podcasting. What is it about podcasting that you hate?

Nick: You know, um, I’d say one of my biggest issues that I don’t have as much anymore, but I started out having it a lot of trouble with production guys and getting people to edit the podcast and take stuff from me that, you know, you try and delegate stuff because it takes time to edit and then it takes time.

If you want to promote it. I do a lot of social clips and, and putting that out all over social media and then, you know, put commercials in and then show it out, show music and all that stuff. And I found that like at first they weren’t getting it done fast enough. So my episodes for the first, like four or five months, they really weren’t coming out and then people don’t really want to listen if you have like one here and then one, three weeks later and one on a Wednesday, one on a Friday.

So that got very frustrating. And then I found somebody who could do it. Who could do it on a good schedule, but they weren’t getting my message. And they were doing weird stuff like the pictures that they would use and the titles that they would use and the stuff that they would put out was just not me.

And, and, you know, they’re, they’re putting the clips out and the words are spelled wrong and I’m like, dude, it’s a whole game about bringing your best to stuff. And all my clips look like I don’t care what I’m doing, so I can’t have that. Like, it doesn’t fit. So that was a little frustrating. So like, Parlaying into what you asked.

It takes a lot of time because they want them doing a lot of it myself. Um, thankfully I have my buddy, Brad Johns is helped me out with a lot now, but I’d say that’s the hardest part is sometimes when I forget to get stuff to him on time and I go, crap, I have to release a show tomorrow because. It’s so important to keep that schedule of like every Monday and every Thursday, I want to have that consistency and I’ll have to stay up late and then relisten to the podcast and reedit all the clips.

And I hate listening to myself, go having to myself two or three times and do that, um, that that’s not fun. So I would just say. The, the post work that goes into it is probably my least favorite part of it. Um, the setting up and the pre stuff of learning about them and what questions I would say sometimes if you don’t have a lot of time to do it gets stressful because you’re like, man, I could.

I want to watch Netflix, or I want to relax. It’s like you can’t, you got to spend two or three hours listening to them as guests on podcasts. But that part’s always cool because every time I do the interview and I get to bring up these things and have these conversations, I’m always happy. I did it. So it’s a long answer to say the post-production part of it is the part that I find frustrating sometimes and boring, but part of what I’m doing right now.

So,

James: all right. Let’s look at the flip side of things. What do you love about podcasting?

Nick: I love talking to new people and I love this. I love just getting there is something different, especially now when. You get somebody’s undivided attention for 30, 45, 60 minutes. Like a lot of the times people don’t even get that with their families, like their wives and kids.

Don’t get an hour of undivided attention with Matt, Sarah, or with, you know, I, I have ’em on Monday, Jordan, Harbinger’s coming on, the guy gets 6 million downloads a month and you get to talk to these people and ask them anything you want. And you really get to know them and connect with them. And I’d say there’s probably been like two guests that afterwards, I didn’t feel like.

Me and that person are cool. I can text him. We can like throw, you know, you want to be respectful of it, but like, you know, I can wish her a happy birthday via email or an insight. So you start to know a little bit more about these people. And I will say the two things that I love, three things really, that I love about it is one, obviously just getting to know people on a deep, deeper level, because it forces you to like put your phone down.

Cut everything out and focus on getting to know this person and even more so not really with, with strangers. It’s cool because you’re getting a new relationship, but with people that are in your life that you’ve known for years, that you get these new stories out about them or something that you said or did with them, that they remember, that you didn’t remember, that was a big deal.

Like that’s cool. Really getting to. To strengthen your relationships with your friends and family in your life is awesome. Oh, I love that part of it, but you know, it’s also really cool when, um, When they, they hear something or say something that it always makes me feel better. So sometimes you’re not in the podcast mood, you know, you wake up early, you were, you had a, a long night, the night before you got your days already piling up.

I got 20 emails from people about properties and stuff, and I’m like all stressed out and I’m like, man, the last thing I could do was give an hour up now to go do a podcast. And then you talk to them. And every time you get off, it’s like the roller course of your steer on the way up, you have the anxiety and then it goes down and you’re like, man, what was I so worried about?

I want to do that again. That’s one of my favorite parts of podcasting. And no matter how stressed or anxious I am about, am I going to run out of things to say, are they going to like me? Is it going to be good? Are people going to enjoy it? When it’s done, it makes my whole day better. And I take these things because it inspires you when you talk to anybody and they tell you about something great, they accomplish and you go, they’re a normal person.

They have good days. They have bad days. It’s not all rainbows and sunshine. Like there’s days that they want to quit. There’s fears that they have, but they push through and they get through it and they achieve these things and you can do the same thing and that like you get off and you’re like, yeah, like I’m going to go kick today’s ass because.

That’s how that’s just what it is every day. It’s people have these problems and you make a decision to get past them. So I think it fires me up and helps me. It’s like therapy for me with like my own thing to go out there and really tackle stuff. So everybody inspires me every time I talk to them, regardless of who it is or what they say, I find some sort of inspiration and motivation from it.

And that’s awesome. That’s really cool.

James: I mean, I totally relate absolutely. 100% what to ask you, how you’ve been going about promoting your

Nick: show. I spend a lot of time I go through and, um, and I’ve got a little bit better at this over, over time and trying to figure out what clips to take, but I’ll, I’ll relisten to the episode and I’ll take little notes down because either I’ll do a follow-up episode, if I feel like there’s enough things that may be people might not have caught.

Then I think you’d have a lot of good value. I’ll go back and I’ll do like a follow-up on like the Thursday after the Monday and be like, man, here’s 30 minutes of just the deep dive into that episode. Here’s what you might not have caught here’s things you could take away. But while I do that, I also relisten to it and I’ll try and find like three or four.

One to three or four minute clips that originally it was just things that I thought were, were great messages or great content or great, great pieces of the episode that if people are not going to listen to whole episode, at least they can hear this one really cool thing or this cool quote. Um, but then people started helping me with that and they say, you know, you should really find ways that you can take things and you can attach them to something somebody would search.

So, you know, like instead of just posting like a quote or, or a funny title or whatever, like make it something like, you know, How do like investors find properties with no money down and like, Oh, here’s something from James talking about that. So like little ways to try and tie it into marketing that it’ll help rate a little bit higher.

Um, but. I’ll take those clips and I’ll, I’ll do like a thumbnail with the catchy title and then I’ll do three or four clips for each episode, and then I’ll get them clip scribe and captions with a headliner and things like that. And then I’ll put them out on LinkedIn, on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook, on my Facebook business page on a.

Now I’m starting to put stuff on Tik TOK, so I’ll put it across all the social platforms and then I’ll try and do creative things with the hashtags. Or sometimes I’ll do a, like a public, uh, promoted post. And then I’m, I’m starting to get a little better with emailing, but that that’s pretty much all I do is, you know, I, I make those clips and then I put a clip or two out a day, every day promoting whatever the current episode is and just say link to my bio or a message me.

And, um, and that’s all I’ve been doing is kind of just organically trying to get attention through social media, promoting any YouTube.

James: Are you, uh, giving anything up on YouTube?

Nick: I do. Yeah. I forgot about that, actually. Yeah. So YouTube is another place I put it. So I’ll put my full episode on YouTube and I’ll put the clips on YouTube, you know, and it’s interesting too, because sometimes I will, like, I don’t know where it’s coming from.

Like somebody find that on take doc that somebody find them on Instagram. And, um, I’ll look at my download sometimes when I’m trying to see what’s happening and I’m like, all right, it doesn’t look like I’m getting much. And then I’ll talk to people that I would’ve never thought listened to the podcast, or people will write to me or say something.

And I’m like, where are all these people listening? Cause it doesn’t necessarily come through there. It doesn’t show his views on my YouTube, but I do put the clips in the episodes on YouTube, but I don’t do good. I don’t really know YouTube well, so I don’t do good at promoting it, but like we just had the end of the year.

And I got whatever YouTube gives you at the end of the year of like, Hey, here’s your stats. You posted this many hours of content. And this many hours were of people watching it. And I was really blown away by how much. Views and how much times people, people spent viewing those. But, um, you know, all I do is literally like when you, if whatever you, I use Libsyn so on lips and I can post it right from Lipson to YouTube and to my website.

And then it’s the same thing as like I’ll, I’ll post, whatever my one to three minute clip is on YouTube. And then I’ll just basically take the same notes and copy and paste it all at once across all the other platforms. But yeah, YouTube, LinkedIn, take talk, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. And I feel like there might even be another one, but yeah, just you are

James: covering it.

That’s no, that’s smart. I don’t know if you’re intuitively coming up with your titles. Uh, how I feel like you’re doing it intentional, just based off of what you had just said to me about, you know, the extent to which you promote yourself, I’m going to shut up now and say, you know, how w how do you come up with those, those titles?

Because they are they’re accurate and they’re great for search engine. Or algorithms.

Nick: Well, I appreciate you saying that. Thank you. And I should actually pick your brain sometime about what I’m doing right. And wrong there, because a lot of it is just me throwing darts, but it’s funny, you mentioned those two specific ones because, um, well, the, the, our real estate and, uh, seminars or scam like that, that was one that I was just like, everybody’s gonna gonna click that.

Whoever goes to one, because it gets asked all the time. So that was kind of like a layup that just point across that I was like, it’s a good topic. That I could get, and nobody’s really going to know which way I’m going to go with it, but I’ll tell you the next one, the tree Taylor one, um, which I believe is my, my most recent episode, I’ll give a shout out to a guy, Derek Verdell.

Uh, I, I, I had him help me and he looked through my stuff and he was like, man, your titles are good, but like, you’re putting too much stuff. And I just learned it. So it’s, it’s interesting that you said, but he was like, you’re putting too many things in the title about who the guest is. And that what listeners are going to be learning.

He’s like, so you should really adjust it. He was like, you have a space. To put all the information about who the guest is and what they do. But if people don’t know them, he goes in, I have big guests, like he said, this he’s like he has big guests on his show. He goes, and even some of the biggest guests, 50% of the people who are going to see that still don’t know who that guy is.

If they’re not in that world, he’s like, so you’re not really grabbing people’s attention by saying here’s the guy’s name. People are going to go. I don’t know who that is and then go, well, maybe I’ll listen to it because of that. You have to give them something that they’re going to read that title and go.

That’s something that catches my eye that I might want to learn about who the hell is that guy anyway. And then they go, Oh, cool. He’s a jiu-jitsu guy. Or he’s an SEO guy, or he’s a, he’s a website guy. And then, and then they’ll dig in. So Trey was the first person that I actually just started doing that with.

Um, and so, um, I’m really, that I guess is self works. If it’s advice works

James: great advice, you know, because people, most of the time, I mean, they’re, they’re in it for what’s in it for me, you know, most of the time people are like, you know, Hey, I’ve got a problem that needs to be solved. Or they’re curious about something, you know, I mean a real estate seminars, a scam.

I mean, I want to know, you know, uh, it’s just an invitation for me to go. Yeah. Let me find out, let me listen to that. Let me learn something. How do you prep for your interviews? Do you outline, do you. We a little bit of both.

Nick: Talk to us about shout out to Dan Fredenberg. He’s got a great YouTube channel, a figure it out.

He was a guest on a couple of my product, probably podcast too. But, um, I was telling him, I was like, man, I, I have trouble trying to figure out, like, if I have two screens or if I have the notes over here, when I’m trying to talk to somebody, I constantly have to like, you know, and I’m like, it’s, it’s awkward.

Cause I don’t want to look away when someone’s talking to me, but then I don’t read the notes. So he was alone. He was like, dude, split the screen in half. It’s like, you can have the zoom window up and it’s normal. And then you can have like an outline of a word doc or something just right next to you. So I split my screen, so I have both of them right on my screen and I can see everything.

Um, but what I’ll do is I’m a twofold, depending on how much time I have, like, I have a few, um, big guests that are coming on that I had a lot of advanced notice for because I had to book them far out. So as I hear them post things on social media, Or if I listened to one of their podcasts or a show or a song, or just anything related to them, I’ll keep their name on my cell phone, in the notes app.

And I’ll constantly just add things whenever it comes to mind. Like that would be a good question for that guy. I even do it sometimes. Like I have one with Jocko, Willink, and he’s probably never come on my podcast, but I’m like if I ever have him, these are questions that I would love to ask him. So I started to build those and keep those notes on there and then it always opens up other doors.

And then as it gets closer to that episode, I’ll I’ll obviously look at their website, but I’ll start to listen to podcasts that they’re on. Not necessarily podcasts that they do, because you’ll learn more about the person when they’re the guests. And sometimes there’s guys that are promoting stuff that are on.

I mean, you could spend days just listening to their podcasts and you can get little cool stories out of there, um, or listen to their book or listen to their audible book. Um, or I’ll just, I’ll go on YouTube sometimes. And I’ll pop in their name and you’ll see them come up with funny stuff or, you know, really great interviews or things from long ago, you could dig up stuff from the past that like, that’s a fun thing to do to like, um, Hey, Michael Patrick, James has got a great podcast about, uh, Michael Patrick Jane can direct traffic and he’s been bought high in some really big movies and shows.

And I went on YouTube and I just put a playlist together and I watched like six hours in the background of videos and interviews of him while I did other stuff. And then there was a couple of sketches that came up that were great, that had all these young guys in there that turned out to be stars later on.

And I bought it up and he was like, I didn’t even remember. I did that. He was like, I can’t believe you found that. So it’s cool. Cause it brings those things up. But I mean, for a 30 to 60 minute episode, I think between like podcasts books, YouTube, and you know, just a little bit of, uh, hitting some websites and listening to some recent press or interviews you’ll have.

I, I don’t think I’ve ever gotten through the questions in the outlines. You know, I’m always looking, they’re going, I’ll put an outline together. I try not to get too detailed, but I’ll put like maybe 10 topics with like three or four bullets. And I’ll say like, if they don’t say anything or they turn out to be a total dud, This will keep me busy for an hour and it never comes to that.

I’m always like, all right, we’re not even going to get to 70% of these, this person’s awesome. We’re already gone on this other thing, but yeah, long answer. I do keep notes on my phone. Then I put them on a word doc and I split my screen while I’m doing it. And I try and use the word

James: that’s a pro tip. That is a pro tip for sure.

You know, and I, man, I love that you are keeping actively keeping notes on people that. Hey, sometime down the road, this person, you know, may or may not be a guest on the show, but these were the things that I, you know, captured and I would ask them about that. That’s really cool. That is next level kind of prep for interviews.

Nick: It all comes from. Being unprepared, you know, you do need to be, you’re not prepared for, and you’re like, man, this is a bad feeling. I don’t want to do this again. So then you start to over-prepare, you know, so it’s all learning from mistakes, right?

James: What’s one piece of advice that you would give somebody who is either new to podcasting or interested in getting into podcasting.

Nick: If you’re interested in getting into podcasting, obviously one of the big things I would say is don’t do it because you saw Joe Rogan make a hundred million dollar deal and think like this is going to be my way to get rich, you know, And that’s really hard to work out in anything, you know, when anybody goes on, I’m going to start taking jujitsu because I want to be a UFC champion, like Connor McGregor, like.

The amount of work and time it takes to get that. And it’s like the likelihood of getting there, like if you’re doing it for that money and for that notoriety, your ego is going to take a really quick bruise. When you put, you know, reeks into recording your podcast and you think you’re spitting fire and gold, and then you look and you have 15 downloads.

Like, do you know what it hurts you at first? So don’t do it for that. Do it for you and do it for find a reason. Like I kept putting it off until I found the reason of. It’s an excuse for me to connect with my friends. And I did a handful. So one tip would be maybe do five or 10 episodes first before you release them.

I had, I think I had 10 before I released one. And then I was like, okay, you know, now I have at least 10 weeks. So if I run out of guests, I’ll have, you know, a little bit of a heads up. So pre-prepare do some episodes, get some people out of the gin, get your feet wet with, um, but do it for you. Do it for the great conversation.

Do your homework on the person, because you know, it’s such a bad feeling when you’re in the middle of the interview and you ran out of things to say, or you don’t really know anything about them, or you screw something up. Like, no, that wasn’t even me. I wasn’t even on that. And you’re like, Oh my God, like you’re down on the inside.

So, um, prepare a couple of episodes in advance. Do it because you want to do it and you love it and be really engaged in do your homework on the guests would be a few of the big things that I would say for somebody starting out to prepare to do is, you know, it’s hard work. So make sure you’re doing it because you like it.

Not because you want to be rich. Why

James: should people listen to your podcast? What do you want them to get out of your show?

Nick: Well, I’ll say my podcast is a little bit like Twitter in the fact that. If you look at almost anybody’s Twitter, they’re all gonna be different based on what is that person clicking?

Who is that person following? What types of things are they interested in? I feel like my podcast is a little bit of that. That whether you’re looking for a mindset, you’re looking for some inspiration to do something awesome or, or motivate you to do something different or get off your bot or just push through some adversity.

Or you’re looking for tips on how to invest in real estate, or you want to know what it’s like to be an athlete or, you know, some mindset stuff, some actual direct advice on how to, how to do something. My podcast is like Twitter, that you can go through the 115 episodes and you can pick five or 10 or 15 or 20.

And really shape it to whatever it is you’re trying to do, whether it’s, again, investing or lifestyle or be an author, or just be better at your job, or have a mindset to be more positive or connect better with people in your family or for your life. I feel like there’s a little bit of something for everybody in my podcast.

If you take the time to look through the guests, you’ll find some things in there that you can. Take something tangible from and put it into your everyday life to help you bring your, a game to whatever you’re doing.

James: Let’s get into a time machine and go one or two years into the future. What is your hopes for your podcast?

Nick: Obviously, you know, more, more growth, more downloads, more connections. And, uh, I hope that I can be better at what I do and find ways to bring more value to people that are listening and, and make guests feel important. Make guests feel special. Like they’re getting their stuff out there, but I mean, really there’s nothing that feels better than when somebody that you didn’t even realize.

Is listening to your podcasts, calls you, or writes to you or tells you that you inspired them to do something or help them do something that made the money or save the money or help their life in a better way. So I would say two years from now, I hope that I’m, I’m flooded with emails and messages of just people that told me, Hey, I listened to your podcast and not even me, but.

You know, I had Jay, I heard your episode with James Lauren and he said X, Y, and Z. And that was the thing that made me go out and do something awesome. Or be a better husband, or be a better investor, or be a better wife or whatever it is. So, um, I hope that I can just exponentially help more people bring their a game and do better things in life or just, I hope that

James: that’s awesome.

You know, and I have to say that, I feel like you’re there. I mean, you provide so much value. Already and you know, to grow on that. I look forward to it. I, I, I look forward to seeing what you’re going to be creating in the future with your podcast. Before we wrap things up, I do have one last question for you, which famous person or celebrity would you be excited to learn that they listened to your podcast?

I’ll

Nick: give you two answers. One of them is I got a happy birthday message from Matt, Sarah, um, who is one of my friends, but also one of my heroes. I mean, the guy’s just amazing in every way. Like you can’t meet him and just not be blown away by him. And he made a comment that like, Hey man, I checked out your podcast and listened to this episode.

And to me that was like, How freaking cool. Is that like that Matt, Sarah actually listened to one of my episodes. I didn’t even know. He knew I had a podcast, like he’s been on it now, but I mean, that to me was, was awesome. You know? Cause it was two guys that were friends of mine and mentors of mine that went of being Mike too.

The two guests that I wanted more than anybody and was just scared to ask them and to hear that they actually listened like Longo call me and gave me a compliment. And Matt did. And, and to me that was like, this was worth doing it just for that. The follow-up to that is the only person who’s turned me down for doing the podcast so far was Jocko Willink.

So he politely. Politely was nine, you know, who knows what he had going on, but I hope that one day he turns around and goes, man, I listened to your podcast and I’ll go, you know, you refuse to do it once. Right. And he can go, Oh, I’m so sorry. Let me do it. And I go, no, no, I’m busy. I’ll call you. And I’m just kidding.

I would definitely let him up, but yeah, that’d be cool to find out when did the Jocko list?

James: That would be cool. That would be cool. Nick, tell us where people can find out more about you and your podcast.

Nick: No. I have the easiest email and website in the history of, of everything. My, uh, my website is Nick, Nick, nick.com.

So you can go on there and you can find like a bunch of different ways to connect with me. But more importantly, if you go on Nick, Nick, nick.com/links, L I N K S. It’ll literally bring you to everywhere. You can listen to my podcasts everywhere. You can connect with me on social media and a couple of cool affiliates.

If you wanted some discount stuff.

James: Nick. Thank you so much for, I mean, there are so many gems in this interview. There’s so much that I got out of this. I am looking forward to editing it, actually listening to because it was an absolute, absolute pleasure to pick your brain in terms of podcasting and how you create and develop and grow your show.

The name of the show is the a game podcast with Nick Lamagna. Nick. Thanks again so much. I wish you the best of luck in the future.

Nick: Thanks so much. One last thing is shout out to Gary Tonin. This is one of his shirts, your mom’s favorite grappler, Gary tone, and, uh, followed him his Instagram at Gary on it.

And I’d go check out some of his t-shirts. So it’s funny guy just figured I’d give him a plugs and set his t-shirt on

James: Nick.

Nick: Thanks for having me have a great day. You

James: too. Thanks again to Nick. Check the show notes for links to learn more about Nick and his show. “The A Game Podcast with Nick Lamagna”.

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